Starting a podcast can be exciting, but turning it into a business that actually makes money? That’s where many podcasters hit a wall. It’s tough to find your niche, attract sponsors, and figure out how to make your show financially sustainable—all while keeping your passion alive.
In this episode, we dive into Joe Crane’s journey—from discovering podcasts on motivational CDs to creating his own show that connects veterans with resources, inspiration, and community. He shares actionable advice on finding your niche, monetizing through sponsorships and services, and why hiring a mentor or coach can be a game-changer. You’ll also hear about the lessons he’s learned along the way, including the importance of focusing your time and resources on what really matters.
Joe Crane retired from the Marine Corps in 2013 after 24 years of service. He was an AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopter pilot and completed two combat flying tours in Iraq. Joe is now an airline pilot and host of the Veteran On the Move podcast. Veteran On the Move empowers veterans and their families through entrepreneurship by introducing them to successful entrepreneurs from the military community through thoughtful and meaningful podcast interviews.
Joe emphasizes the importance of niching down. When he started “Veteran on the Move,” he wanted to create a podcast about entrepreneurship but quickly realized the need to focus more narrowly. By zeroing in on military veterans transitioning into entrepreneurship, Joe not only identified his target audience but also carved out a space where he could provide real value.
If you’re starting a podcast, ask yourself:
Joe credits much of his success to hiring John Lee Dumas, a well-known entrepreneur and podcaster, as his mentor. With guidance from someone who had already achieved success in the space, Joe was able to fast-track his learning curve and avoid common pitfalls.
Investing in a coach or mentor—especially one experienced in your field—can save you time, money, and frustration. It’s a lesson Lacey echoes as well, highlighting how experts can help you focus on the activities that bring real results.
Joe’s podcast didn’t start making money right away, and he advises patience when building an audience. He shares that sponsorships became a key revenue stream for his show, but only after years of consistent effort and visibility. Here are some monetization methods discussed in the episode:
Joe highlights a growing trend—many listeners are now consuming podcasts on YouTube rather than traditional platforms like Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Even if your show doesn’t have a video component, having a presence on YouTube can help you reach new audiences.
Pro Tip: You don’t need professional video production. A static image or slideshow accompanying your audio can work well on YouTube.
Both Joe and Lacey share candid lessons from their podcasting journeys:
Related podcast: How to Build Your Path to Financial Freedom (with John Lee Dumas)
Starting and growing a podcast takes time, effort, and strategy, but with the right mindset and tools, it’s possible to turn it into a thriving business. Whether you’re a seasoned podcaster or just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights to help you take your show to the next level.
If you’re ready to dive deeper into the world of podcasting and learn from Joe’s decade-long experience, listen to the full episode and start taking actionable steps toward your podcasting goals!
00:39 Welcome to the Milmo Show
01:07 Joe Crane’s Podcasting Journey
02:46 Starting a Podcast: Challenges and Advice
07:37 Monetizing Your Podcast
10:54 The Importance of Mentorship
23:10 Tools and Resources for Podcasters
27:30 Game Time: Who Am I?
29:29 Conclusion and Goodbyes
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